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August 18, 2005

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Jeff - Phil Johnson is kind of John MacArthur's right hand man - he is on staff at Grace Community Church and is somehow involved in Grace To You - MacArthur's radio ministry. That quote was from an article he wrote for the Shepherd's Fellowship which is an online ministry of Grace, but you have to be a member to access it. But Steve Camp posted it on his blog - so the source is kind of circuitous, but it's Phil's quote being posted on Steve Camp's blog.

Phil is blogging at Pyromaniac now - phillipjohnson.blogspot.com

So, if you want to respond you can check out his blog. Check out his August 13th post called "Some Reading Material for the Weekend," where you can see a rough outline of a debate he has been involved in.

Phil is an outstanding young theologian and I am really glad he is blogging and almost everything he writes is terrific. I actually share many of his views on political activism - I think we evangelicals place too much faith in political activism and I think Nancy did a good job in her book of putting political activism in its proper place as being downstream from culture.

But on this one Phil has his blinders on and doesn't seem to see or acknowledge that when folks like Colson are calling for "cultural engagement" they are talking about so much more than political activism.

Jeff -- just curious -- do you think "ecumenical" is a dirty word, as MacArthur and his ilk do? IMHO, Evangelicals and Catholics Together is one of the more important developments in recent Christian history. I have little patience for most of its detractors, particularly MacArthur, whom I think generally is off-base about many things.

Thanks David Wayne. BTW, you never responded to my invitation to meet at the Nov 3. C.S. Lewis lecture in Camp Hill, PA. Maybe David Opderbeck would join us -- he is a Pennsylvania man.

David O.

I don't have any baggage with the word ecumenical. Nor, I have not tuned into MacArthur's contentions with ECT.

I know Colson has taken heat for ECT, but I honestly have not paid close attention.

Much to the dismay and chagrin of some of my reformed brethren, I continue to be more of a gospel cowboy than a doctrine cop. I focus more on the majors than the minors.

I want to pour my energy into engaging culture -- which is not a euphemism for political activism -- and to seeking out the last, the least and the lost with the gospel. I am more of a common grace Kuyperian than I am an antithesis Kuyperian. If that last statement did not make sense, stay tuned to further posts on "Natural Law / Common Grace / Antithesis".

What's the Lewis lecture? Might be doable for me (I'm actually in NJ) -- especially if we can squeeze in a late-season round of golf with it.

David,

Check out :

http://www.narniaontour.com/tourdates.htm

There is a lecture in Philly as well -- which I think would be closer for you. The Camp Hill is about as close as it gets for me coming from Roanoke.

I thought it might be fun to catch a Lewis lecture with a few bloggers.

I have read much of Pearcy's Total Truth and find it a great follow up from the works of Schaeffer and Colson. Lately I've been trying to get through No Place for Sovereignty by Wright and am not real clear about his point on why Schaeffer did not answer him about some of his students who defended the Arminianist view that follows up with Shedd's view that leaves the Arminian indeterminists view fortified. At a certain time he believed that Dr. Schaeffer did not want to challenge the free will Calvinists by challenging their inconsistent view about free will. This Bondage of the will topic must be resolved according to Wright because the freewillism mentality of the Armeninst undermines Gods omniscience. On p.58 in Wrights book the topic is Theological inconherencies and it points out how very weak the freewill Armenians position is. Using the presuppositional apologetics of Van Til and Schaeffer man's autonomy is a position that is not valid but Wright says we hand him back the whole case by allowing in this weak position of the Arminian on freedom of the will. G.DeArment

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