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September 02, 2005

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I was unsettled when my jumior high boys were talking about the looting as if it were cool...but it opened a door for me to speak about good citizenship and being a person of strong character...Even discussed the contrast between "church" groups who go to help and the people who are just out to see what they can get for free.

The reaction to looting has not been universal outrage. There was a story on the news yesterday about the crowds amassed at the convention center, saying that there was a great deal of tolerance for the looters among that crowd, because the looters were sharing; specifically, they were sharing food and drink they had looted.

Which raises a more difficult moral question: if your options are break into that Walgreens across the street and grab some bread, or starve to death, is breaking into the Walgreens really such a morally repugnant option?

I'm certainly not going to defend people stealing TVs and designer clothes, but with the city in its current state, I can't fully condemn people going after the bare necessities by such means. Particularly if doing so saves lives without taking any.

Maryellen,

Way to use teachable moment to talk about wisdom!

Tom,

Here is an interesting proverb to chew on:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs%206:30-31;&version=31;

I would be interested in your thoughts.

I have heard reports of policeman who said they would not do a thing about looting of groceries ... but they would stop looting of anything else.

If I am not mistaken, there is a big discussion taking place on EO about the morality of stealing given those squalid conditions.

Do you know of anyone who is not outraged at the looting of jewelry stores or hospitals or other people's homes?

I have been pondering why many of these people have behaved like animals. The "they were stealing to survive" meme does not hold up to scrutiny. Of course, no one blames people for trying to survive the best way they can. This hardly explains why women are getting raped, teenagers their throats slit, rescue helicopters shot at, or policemen shot in the head, does it?

We need to examine the consequences of taking God, and moral absolutes out of society - and teaching people that they are only a higher form of animal. For goodness sakes, look at this quote:

Darwin wasn't just provocative in saying that we descend from the apes—he didn't go far enough. We are apes in every way, from our long arms and tailless bodies to our habits and temperament.-- Frans de Waal, primate scientist at Emory University.

Ideas have consequences. Teach people they are animals and they will behave like animals. Using the Darwin model, pure domination of the strong over the weak is not only inevitable, it is preferable. The Christian model for society is somewhat more positive.

Mr. Dawn Treader:

The proverb is only meaningful insofar as one makes no distinction between Biblical morality and morality-at-large. I know that you do not, but many (probably most) make just such a distinction.

And it should be noted that I'm certainly not making excuses for the looting of non-essentail goods, or of rape, or of any of the other nasty things that have been going on there. I was simply pointing out that it's not so cut-and-dry as you had initially painted it.

What's obvious, and what goes without saying, is that events like these tend to bring out both the best and the worst of humanity.

Jeff Blogworthy:

I'd be willing to bet that most of those left behind (including the ones behaving badly) consider themselves devout Christians, and are more inclined to believe in Creationism than Darwinism. So your "teaching people they are animals" allegation rings hollow.

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